Comments on: Overview of the John Muir Trail https://socalhiker.net Trail Guides, Gear Reviews, & Community Wed, 04 Oct 2023 20:49:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: Hiking the John Muir Trail: 210 Miles of Spectacular https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-243249 Wed, 04 Oct 2023 20:49:40 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-243249 […] you choose to hike the trail northbound or southbound, keep in mind that the primary hiking season is from July to September. This timeframe provides […]

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By: Marta Morse https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-171266 Sun, 06 Oct 2019 16:53:03 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-171266 How about my trip with husband…two mules carried equipment for a planed 3+ week trek. It was in September of 1951. No fancy equipment, all was purchased at Army surplus including the paratrooper boots needed to protect my feet when working with animals and rough terrain. High top basketball shoes were an alternative when rappelling and other diversions along the way, without animals. Honoring tradition we dutifully brought wood and left non perishable food behind when we left the 10 thousand plus Muir Hut. The Sierra club provided dried veggies and when a stream was available did some fishing, no convince store then.

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By: Christine https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-94751 Fri, 31 Aug 2018 19:30:32 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-94751 Loved reading about your trip. My dad did the JMT over a few years with his friends back in the 70’s. My sister and I are planning to do it August 2019 in memory of him. He passed in 2016 from a stroke he had on the way to his what he had planned as his last backpacking trip.

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By: Jeff Hester https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-91282 Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:07:44 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-91282 In reply to Linda Gilbert.

Unfortunately, no. There is no way to get a “rain check” for a permit from year to year. He might try talking to the ranger in Yosemite and see if they will offer any preference for his permit for next year, but they don’t have any official policy or even a way of doing this automatically.

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By: Linda Gilbert https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-90833 Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:30:02 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-90833 So my son had to give up his permit to hike the JMT for August 17 2018 due to the fire and closure of Yosemite. He’d waited 2 years to get his permit.
Is there a way his name could be re-set for next year??
All the folks who had starting dates this August are not able to start the trail this year!

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By: Liva Derma Anti Wrinle Serum https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-58148 Thu, 22 Feb 2018 08:12:55 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-58148 Fastidious response in return of this issue with firm arguments and describing the whole thing on the topic of that.

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By: Darren Wadel https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-31283 Fri, 10 Feb 2017 21:33:00 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-31283 I’ve got about seven days at the end of May for a possible section hike on the John Muir Trail. I assume there will be substantial snow left at that time? I’d like to hike later in the summer but schedule will not allow, so I’m looking for recommendations on what I can get done in a week on the trail. I am from Vermont and snowshoe daily, but I’m curious on high altitude snow conditions in CA. Also can I get a permit for a section hike, possibly hitting the trail in the middle and hiking south to Mt. Whitney. Thanks very much!

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By: Jeff Hester https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-20162 Fri, 19 Aug 2016 05:41:54 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-20162 @Jose: No, we did not. We had trekking poles, though, and those were invaluable. There were some stretches with snow, but nothing by July/August there is a good path worn into it so it’s pretty stable and easy to follow.

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By: JOSE B https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-20161 Fri, 19 Aug 2016 05:39:18 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-20161 Hi Jeff, did you carry crampons / microspikes? do you think it is worth carrying the extra weight if I do the hike on July/August?

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By: Jeff Hester https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-18681 Mon, 23 May 2016 13:39:13 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-18681 In reply to Marnie.

Marnie, no permits are required for day hikes to Vernal and Nevada Falls.

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By: Marnie https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-18678 Mon, 23 May 2016 10:44:12 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-18678 It says you need a permit to hike the John Muir trail.
Does that only apply for long hikes that include overnight? Or do you now need a permit for the cpl mile hike to Vernal and Nevada falls?

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By: Najim Mostamand https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-10740 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:01:00 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-10740 Just got my permit reservation a couple of hours ago for mid August after 8 days of trying (the last one I faxed over 70 times). Going to start at GP and if anyone is frustrated at the permit process, especially cause of the Donahue quota, I can just encourage you to keep trying, because persistence pays off. MMAAH was a huge inspiration to go for this adventure and now with this blog I’m hoping to be as prepared and well-trained for the experience of a lifetime. Thank you Jeff for some great information for first-time JMT thru-hikers. Will be using your site a lot (especially for SoCal training hikes) in the coming months!

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By: Shawn Watts https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-10732 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 06:18:09 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-10732 I know I’m late in the process but what would you recommend for getting a permit? I’m wanting to go mid June

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By: Shawn Watts https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-10731 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 06:16:33 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-10731 I’m thinking about doing a trip of 10-14 days. What would you recommend for this time frame?

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By: Jeff Hester https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-10417 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:41:53 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-10417 In reply to Terry Imhoff.

Terry: The odds are long. Permit applications for the JMT are up significantly, and Yosemite recently changed the rules to throttle the number of thru-hikers exiting over Donohue Pass (ostensibly JMT hikers). That shouldn’t discourage you from trying, but you might want to consider a Plan B.

I’m looking at an option that goes over Fernandez Pass into Ansel Adams Wilderness (not impacted by the Donohue quota limits). You could then cut across and rejoin the JMT at Devil’s Postpile. Almost identical mileage to the “real” JMT. You might consider making that your alternate in case you don’t get one a permit for Happy Isles.

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By: Terry Imhoff https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-10406 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:26:17 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-10406 Has anyone calculated the odds of getting your permit for 2 hikers leaving from Yosemite Valley to Little Yosemite Valley for a date in late July? We got permits two years ago and it took us three tries. We couldn’t finish due to injury. (We went off over Bishop Pass). We would like to try again this year but have a narrow window of dates which will allow for a finish of a 21-23 day hike.

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By: Jeff Hester https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-10373 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 21:29:22 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-10373 In reply to Andrew.

Andrew, the rangers in Yosemite process applications 7 days a week. Keep trying, and good luck!

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By: Andrew https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-10354 Sat, 31 Jan 2015 23:07:22 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-10354 Does the Yosemite permit office process applications on the weekends or do I have to wait until Monday to hear if we got one? My brother and my first request were denied yesterday, trying to get a reservation before the new quota tightens the noose on 2/2/15.

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By: Calikota https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-5773 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 04:31:58 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-5773 Thanks Jeff. I used your site extensively in preparation for my JMT trip I just completed. Check out my site at http://www.calikota.com

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By: Pranitha https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-5467 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:19:19 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-5467 Hi.. Looks like I am way to late to think about doing this hike in 2014, but I am new to US and came to know about this recently. I do regular hikes and consider myself fit for this trail and was looking for some group who are going this time.

Do you think I still any possibility to join or do it in this short notice. I have not got the permits too πŸ™
Please help me with information to get started. Thank you

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By: bradykarlin https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-5005 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 06:26:52 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-5005 I’m thinking of getting on the trail from Mt. Whitney or Bishop around May 4th and hiking to Yosemite by May 16th, which may be ridiculous? How do I find out the Snow Levels for Forester Pass? What temps should I expect and what snow gear is mandatory? Is there any trick to getting a permit from either of those entry point around then? Thanks, Brady aka Captain Funby!

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By: Jeff Hester https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-4902 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:40:40 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-4902 In reply to Jeff C..

Thanks for the kinds works, Jeff C.! If you have questions about the JMT, be sure to check out our forums.

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By: Jeff C. https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-4898 Sun, 09 Mar 2014 06:53:00 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-4898 In the midst of planning and have been piecing together information from multiple sites. This page was extremely comprehensive and now my go to, thanks!

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By: Kristen Bor https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-4852 Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:49:07 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-4852 Thanks Jeff! I was also thinking that this year the snow levels will likely be atypical, but that’s good to know that there’s typically snow into July. Either way, I’m thinking I’ll apply for a permit for August then. The warmer temps will make swimming in those beautiful glacial lakes much more pleasant. Really love your blog. You are an awesome resource!

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By: Jeff Hester https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-4851 Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:21:53 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-4851 In reply to Kristen Bor.

Kristen, it really depends on the snow conditions. Even in late July, you would normally hit snow on many of the passes. Of course, this year could be an exception. Someone recently hiked to Forester Pass last month and there were only 8″ of snow — VERY low snow for this time of year.

I would say it depends on what happens between now and June, but watch the snow levels. The snow slows down travel and can make route-finding skills much more important (no trail to follow).

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By: Kristen Bor https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-4848 Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:54:20 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-4848 Jeff – Do you think early June is too early for the JMT? I’d like to do it this summer, but our best window is around June 5th.

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By: Jeff Hester https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-2045 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:57:12 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-2045 In reply to Andrea.

Hey Andrea! I’m from Southern California, and for the most part don’t get snow except when I head up into the mountains.

You will encounter snow, but you won’t need to camp on it. Mainly the impact will be more snow on the passes and higher water in the creek crossings. It will still get nice and warm during the day, and downright chilly (freezing, even) at night, so you’ll need to have appropriate layers. Nothing additional due to the snow though.

The only thing I would see as essential would be trekking poles, but then I’d recommend those anyway. I used them on my last JMT trek most (but not all) days. They saved my knees on some of the giant steps and gave me some insurance on creek crossing or in snow.

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By: Andrea https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-2044 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:43:33 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-2044 Hey there, my friends and I are hiking JMT this June/July. Due to the downpour of snow in Yosemite this March, we are worrying about what to expect as far as temperature and snowpack goes. We are all from Texas, so we don’t deal with snow too much πŸ˜‰ and we have definitely never camped on snow. We plan on keeping up with the conditions in the park for the next few months, but if there is going to be a lot of snow, what extra gear would you suggest we bring?
Thanks for any info!

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By: SoCal Hiker https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-286 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:20:20 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-286 In reply to lily.

Thanks, Lily! I’ve been enjoying the on-trail and off-trail camaraderie of the Hiking OC group. I’m so glad you got it started.

If anyone in the group is interested in joining us a few days earlier, perhaps hiking from Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne, I have room for one more on my permit!

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By: SoCal Hiker https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-285 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:16:41 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-285 In reply to Derek (100 Peaks).

Hey Derek, we won’t be starting the JMT until July 27th, and won’t be near Whitney until 20 days later. Here’s the complete itinerary: https://socalhiker.net//2010/02/itinerary-for-the-john-muir-trail/

We now have both the Tom Harrison JMT map pack and the new Blackwoods Press JMT Atlas. We will probably take both, though I really like the JMT Atlas. Very concise, lightweight (2 oz) and compact. I’ll be posting a more detailed review soon.

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By: lily https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-281 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:36:04 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-281 thanks for sharing your great history of 30 years ago Jeff. Love the photos, the only one I can recognize is Devil’s Postpile. Your website is excellent…just realize you’ll be in Yosemite just few days before the group, 2 more great peaks and you’ll be on your way to your long wait for trip. Have a great time and hope for less snow on San Jacinto and San Gorgonio coming weekends πŸ™‚

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By: SoCal Hiker https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-201 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:50:57 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-201 In reply to Hiking Lady.

Thanks, Hiking Lady! I’m really looking forward to this trip. Having hiked it 30 years ago — almost to the day — I’m excited to see how this experience differs. Aside from the fact that I’m 30 years older, of course.

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By: Hiking Lady https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-191 Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:22:51 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-191 Excellent info on the JMT. I really like how you simplified it. I haven’t done a thru-hike of the JMT yet, but one day I will. Have fun out there this summer!

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By: Derek (100 Peaks) https://socalhiker.net/backpacking/jmt/john-muir-trail-overview/#comment-120 Mon, 10 May 2010 17:49:43 +0000 https://socalhiker.net//?page_id=551#comment-120 Awesome writeup. Great resource. I have bookmarked this page for when I finally get around to do this trip.

I also have the tiny version of the Winnett book.

Actual torches may come in handy with bears, though!

I can’t wait to read about your travels. I’ll be hiking towards Whitney early-mid-July, will you be nearby?

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